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BADFISH II
10-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Where do I get my trailer hitch on the Yukon upgraded to be able to pull more weight? One would think on the 3/4 ton this would never be a question I would ask, but it says only 5,000 and 10,000 load distributed and I guess the 5,000 isn't enough.

Not positive what it takes, but if you know where I can get it done - that would be COOLIO!

E-Q
10-22-2006, 09:08 PM
The hitchin' post on las vegas blvd (the nellis end)

http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

BADFISH II
10-23-2006, 06:15 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (E-Q @ Oct. 22 2006, 10:08 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The hitchin' post on las vegas blvd Â* (the nellis end)

http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Cool!

E-Q WELCOME! Or at least "Great to hear from you!"

Thanks for the info - I'm going to check that out this week.

kevnmcd
10-23-2006, 07:09 AM
So does this mean you bought HD/HH's boat? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif

Havasu Dreamin
10-23-2006, 07:19 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 23 2006, 08:09 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So does this mean you bought HD/HH's boat? Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I know I'm answering for Greg here, but no, not yet. But I did let him know that his stock hitch is only rated at 5000 lbs weight carrying and he needs to get a higher rated hitch before does any long tows with it. Hell, I towed the boat for a year before realizing the hitch was only rated at 5000 lbs. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/grinser010.gif

BADFISH II
10-23-2006, 07:34 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 23 2006, 08:09 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So does this mean you bought HD/HH's boat? Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
HD said it!

I haven't bought it yet. I like to make sure I can find a place to store it and tow it before I buy it http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Havasu Dreamin
10-23-2006, 07:36 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 23 2006, 08:34 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can find a place to store it[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I seriously need to get my hands on a grip of cash and build a storage facility in Boulder City. Then I can sit back and cash the checks..... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jump.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif

roln 20s
10-23-2006, 07:47 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ Oct. 23 2006, 08:36 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 23 2006, 08:34 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can find a place to store it[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I seriously need to get my hands on a grip of cash and build a storage facility in Boulder City. Then I can sit back and cash the checks..... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jump.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'll get a few investors if you are serious...we can make it happen http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Roln 20s

digginfordollars
10-23-2006, 10:09 PM
Not sure about this but I don't think any hitches are rated over 5000 pounds without load distributing devices. I wouldn't worry about it Greg.

BADFISH II
10-24-2006, 05:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (digginfordollars @ Oct. 23 2006, 11:09 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not sure about this but I don't think any hitches are rated over 5000 pounds without load distributing devices. I wouldn't worry about it Greg.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No? I think Scott has one - they got theirs fixed to be 10,000 and 12,000 load distributing rated.

Haven't done it yet but I need too - any input appreciated!

kevnmcd
10-24-2006, 06:55 AM
Greg - The Essex's trailer is not load distributing, if I am not mistaken. I agree with D4$. You might want to talk to someone before you go change it out. I don't think Chevy would put a hitch on there that wasn't rated to tow to the limits of the vehicle.

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:00 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 24 2006, 06:14 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Not sure about this but I don't think any hitches are rated over 5000 pounds without load distributing devices. I wouldn't worry about it Greg.<span id='postcolor'>
No? Â*I think Scott has one - they got theirs fixed to be 10,000 and 12,000 load distributing rated.

Haven't done it yet but I need too - any input appreciated![/quote]
You are correct, as we looked at on Friday night, my hitch has been switched out to a weight carrying of 10k lbs and weight distributing to 12k lbs.


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 07:55 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg - The Essex's trailer is not load distributing, if I am not mistaken. Â*I agree with D4$. Â*You might want to talk to someone before you go change it out. Â*I don't think Chevy would put a hitch on there that wasn't rated to tow to the limits of the vehicle.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

You are also correct, the trailer is not a weight distributing trailer. However, his hitch is only rated at 5k lbs weight carrying and I think 7500 lbs weight distributing.....

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:01 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 24 2006, 06:14 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
No? Â*I think Scott has one - they got theirs fixed to be 10,000 and 12,000 load distributing rated.

Haven't done it yet but I need too - any input appreciated![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You are correct, as we looked at on Friday night, my hitch has been switched out to a weight carrying of 10k lbs and weight distributing to 12k lbs.


</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 07:55 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg - The Essex's trailer is not load distributing, if I am not mistaken. Â*I agree with D4$. Â*You might want to talk to someone before you go change it out. Â*I don't think Chevy would put a hitch on there that wasn't rated to tow to the limits of the vehicle.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

You are also correct, the trailer is not a weight distributing trailer. However, his hitch is only rated at 5k lbs weight carrying and I think 7500 lbs weight distributing.....

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:02 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (roln 20s @ Oct. 23 2006, 08:47 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'll get a few investors if you are serious...we can make it happen http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Roln 20s[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No kidding!

kevnmcd
10-24-2006, 07:04 AM
Maybe he doesn't have heavy duty trailering package on that expensive rig of his? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif I know on my old burb with that package it came with a hitch that was rated for 10K#, not load distributing. I guess he didn't do all his homework? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smilie_auslachen.gif

BADFISH II
10-24-2006, 07:04 AM
I'm confused now.

Trailer hitch says 5,000 lbs or 10,000 load distributing. Can I tow 7,500 lbs?

kevnmcd
10-24-2006, 07:07 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:04 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm confused now.

Trailer hitch says 5,000 lbs or 10,000 load distributing. Â*Can I tow 7,500 lbs?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No! You need a new hitch. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:10 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:04 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe he doesn't have heavy duty trailering package on that expensive rig of his? Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif Â*I know on my old burb with that package it came with a hitch that was rated for 10K#, not load distributing. Â*I guess he didn't do all his homework? Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smilie_auslachen.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Chevy must have changed what they supply then as my '05 suburban came with the same weight limits that Greg's Yukon XL has and mine is the 3/4 ton with the heavy duty trailering package.

BADFISH II
10-24-2006, 07:10 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:07 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:04 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm confused now.

Trailer hitch says 5,000 lbs or 10,000 load distributing. Â*Can I tow 7,500 lbs?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No! Â*You need a new hitch. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm on the phone with them now for grins.

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:11 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:07 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No! Â*You need a new hitch. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What Kevin said. I could not remember exactly what your hitch said and for some reason the 7500 lb number was in my head.....

STV_Keith
10-24-2006, 07:14 AM
Greg, do your homework here. I know that the hitches they put in certain year chevy trucks would not last at their rated load. A lot of people had to put Draw-Tites in their place.

I don't know the specifics, but you can e-mail PartyCat (Jim Dynda) as I know he had to change the hitch out of his Chevy 3500 duallie. jim@dyndaREMOVE.net

kevnmcd
10-24-2006, 07:16 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:10 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:04 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Maybe he doesn't have heavy duty trailering package on that expensive rig of his? Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif Â*I know on my old burb with that package it came with a hitch that was rated for 10K#, not load distributing. Â*I guess he didn't do all his homework? Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smilie_auslachen.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Chevy must have changed what they supply then as my '05 suburban came with the same weight limits that Greg's Yukon XL has and mine is the 3/4 ton with the heavy duty trailering package.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Maybe they did cuz mine was a 96 and was rated for 10k. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif Of course with that 454 and 180k miles on it, it could barely pull itself up the hills much less my 5k# trailer. Glad I have the dmax now! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/jump.gif

BADFISH II
10-24-2006, 07:28 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (STV_Keith @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:14 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg, do your homework here. Â*I know that the hitches they put in certain year chevy trucks would not last at their rated load. Â*A lot of people had to put Draw-Tites in their place.

I don't know the specifics, but you can e-mail PartyCat (Jim Dynda) as I know he had to change the hitch out of his Chevy 3500 duallie. Â*jim@dyndaREMOVE.net[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm working on it. It sounds like I need to get the hitch fixed but I'm just calling GM to make sure. They're supposed to call me back.

Can someone explain the difference in what it says on the hitch 5,000 and 10,000 load distributing? Color me naive, what is load distributing?

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:34 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:28 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can someone explain the difference in what it says on the hitch 5,000 and 10,000 load distributing? Â*Color me naive, what is load distributing?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Load/weight distributing is a hitch that has two additional 'arms' that come back from the bottom of the hitch and mount to the trailer frame.

This is a weight distributing hitch. See the two additional 'arms' that go back to the trailer frame.....I've never seen a boat trailer with a weight distributing hitch. Does not mean they don't exist, I've just never seen one.....

http://www.drawtite-hitches.com/WD/images/66006.jpg

kevnmcd
10-24-2006, 07:35 AM
Load distributing is what you see mostly on travel trailers with the bars and chains that connect to the hitch also. Looks like this.

http://www.drawtite-hitches.com/WD/images/kits.jpg

kevnmcd
10-24-2006, 07:36 AM
Pretty funny there Scott....we grabbed the exact same pic! I guess great minds think alike. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:37 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:36 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Pretty funny there Scott....we grabbed the exact same pic! Â*I guess great minds think alike. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
True dat! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif

roln 20s
10-24-2006, 07:46 AM
Scott and I have talked about Weight distribution hitches alot this year-- since I wanted to get a 30' toyhauler (then realized I don't have the time or $$$- haha) I was asking some questions about them. Over a two weekend period, I saw two fatalities on the AZ freeways involving toy hauler/truck roll overs. Both were 30+ toyhaulers, 3/4 ton trucks and NO WD Hitch--what are these people thinking? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif I was shocked to when I saw the price--they are about $500 http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Wow1.gif

Safety first--$500 is cheap when it could prevent an accident.

My hitch on my 06 DMax is rated at 7500 lbs towing and 12500lbs WD-- Jordy just put a new hitch on his that is 12000lbs towing and 15000lbs WD-- so BIG hitches are definitely available.

Roln 20s

Havasu Dreamin
10-24-2006, 07:47 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (roln 20s @ Oct. 24 2006, 08:46 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Safety first--$500 is cheap when it could prevent an accident.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Absofrigginlutely!

Tee
10-24-2006, 08:12 AM
Greg,
Do a search or two over on RV.net Â*(failed hitch, broken hitch, weak hitch, gm hitch, etc) there have been many issues and ugly results with the GM factory hitch on Burbs and Tahoes and towing medium to heavy!

Get a good aftermarket Class V rated hitch. Â*I got one by Putnam for my Dodge ($265.00 from etrailer.com rated 1500 load and 15000 towing WITHOUT equalizer/weight distrubution, all bolt on!http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif as with the 27" extension to get out from under the camper I was putting a hellish load on the reciever (think Cheater or Breaker Bar).

Especially with a GM hitch. Â*Get something better before you tow much at all!!!!! Â*Towbeast by Reese is another good one. But quite a bit more expensive.

T

BADFISH II
10-24-2006, 10:45 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tee @ Oct. 24 2006, 09:12 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg,
Do a search or two over on RV.net Â*(failed hitch, broken hitch, weak hitch, gm hitch, etc) there have been many issues and ugly results with the GM factory hitch on Burbs and Tahoes and towing medium to heavy!

Get a good aftermarket Class V rated hitch. Â*I got one by Putnam for my Dodge ($265.00 from etrailer.com rated 1500 load and 15000 towing WITHOUT equalizer/weight distrubution, all bolt on!http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif as with the 27" extension to get out from under the camper I was putting a hellish load on the reciever (think Cheater or Breaker Bar).

Especially with a GM hitch. Â*Get something better before you tow much at all!!!!! Â*Towbeast by Reese is another good one. But quite a bit more expensive.

T[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thanks for the input! I'm going to do that, just gotta find a good shop here to do it for me!

NdaWind
10-24-2006, 11:12 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've never seen a boat trailer with a weight distributing hitch. Does not mean they don't exist, I've just never seen one.....<span id='postcolor'>
I had one of these units on my boat trailer because there was also a waverunner rack on top and it created quite a bit of tongue weight. Â*My impression was it is used mainly for the tonque weight and the side to side swaying of high profile trailers and not for the overall wieght of the trailer. Â*Now that I took the sawzall and cut the rack of I never use it except to luanch my boat with the jeep, REALLY helps keep the back of the jeep up and level.

Should not need one with a stock boat trailer unless mods were done.

O and make sure to get the 10K drawbar and ball mount

BADFISH II
10-25-2006, 12:39 PM
OK - now I'm pissed. I hear that because it's an 07 there is not a trailer hitch available yet to fit the frame on it - so essentially I bought a car with a 9,400 towing capacity that has a 5,000 hitch on it and I'm at the mercy of whoever makes this SH!T to make one so I can actually tow up to the real capacity of the vehicle.


http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif

kevnmcd
10-25-2006, 12:55 PM
I can't believe that GM doesn't have one. Did you try them? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif

Havasu Dreamin
10-25-2006, 01:00 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 25 2006, 1:39 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">OK - now I'm pissed. Â*I hear that because it's an 07 there is not a trailer hitch available yet to fit the frame on it - so essentially I bought a car with a 9,400 towing capacity that has a 5,000 hitch on it and I'm at the mercy of whoever makes this SH!T to make one so I can actually tow up to the real capacity of the vehicle.


http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I used The Hitch Depot. (http://www.thehitchdepot.com/) Granted they are in So. Cal but maybe they can give you a different story.

NdaWind
10-25-2006, 04:50 PM
I won't let that stand in your way of buying Scott's boat. Short trips to mead and drive carefully. You won't belive how many folks I have run into that don't even know any that chit. They just buy a draw bar and ballmount at Wallmart and hook it and go.

Red Horse
10-25-2006, 07:04 PM
Unless they really changed the frame from 06-07 there should be one that works. Go to a good hitch shop. You should be able to get it taken care of.

Are you talking about the bumper hitch on your Tahoe Greg?

They usually are 5K no matter the tow rating. I actually got my Class IV out of Grainger for 175 bucks. It attached to the frame in front of the bumper mounts. The reciever part was right below the bumper.

Check this out.

http://www.drawtite-hitches.com/site_index/towproduts2.htm

There is something out there for you.

BTW, I will NEVER tow from the bumper again. No matter the load. With my little jet boat I still had the class IV. More control, less sway, just felt better all the way around. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

BADFISH II
10-25-2006, 07:10 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Oct. 25 2006, 8:04 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Unless they really changed the frame from 06-07 there should be one that works. Go to a good hitch shop. You should be able to get it taken care of.

Are you talking about the bumper hitch on your Tahoe Greg?

They usually are 5K no matter the tow rating. I actually got my Class IV out of Grainger for 175 bucks. It attached to the frame in front of the bumper mounts. The reciever part was right below the bumper.

Check this out.

http://www.drawtite-hitches.com/site_index/towproduts2.htm

There is something out there for you.

BTW, I will NEVER tow from the bumper again. No matter the load. With my little jet boat I still had the class IV. More control, less sway, just felt better all the way around. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
NO NO NO - not the bumper hitch bud!

It's a real deal welded on (or bolted or however they do it - you can tell I don't wrench) towing hitch - it just isn't rated high enough.

I WOULDN'T think it would make that much difference either - the body style - but they say it does. I'm goind to try a few more shops tomorrow and see what they say.

Thanks!

Red Horse
10-25-2006, 07:15 PM
Here is what I had
Â*
Â*SEARCH RESULTS FOR:
2001 Dodge Pickup, Ram, Full Size

Â* Premium Receiver Â*PN 37017 Â*

Part Number: Â*37017
Description: Premium Receiver
Class Rating: CLASS III/IV
WC / WD: 7500 / 12,000 Â*
Box Size: 2" x 2"


Footnotes:

GU: Will not fit vehicles with factory or aftermarket lower Fascia/Rollpan or Tube Bumper.



Weight-Carrying Capacity Â*Weight-Distributing Capacity

Tongue Weight - 750 lbs.
Gross Trailer Weight - 7500 lbs.
Â* Â*
Tongue Weight - 1200 lbs.
Gross Trailer Weight - 12,000 lbs.

Mine was bolted on. I did it myself. It used the existing frame holes with some bad ass bolts. Never had a lick of problem and I have towed to the max of my old truck. 8500 lbs. Not far, but did it.

BADFISH II
10-25-2006, 07:36 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Oct. 25 2006, 8:15 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here is what I had
Â*
Â*SEARCH RESULTS FOR:
2001 Dodge Pickup, Ram, Full Size

Â* Premium Receiver Â*PN 37017 Â*

Part Number: Â*37017
Description: Premium Receiver
Class Rating: CLASS III/IV
WC / WD: 7500 / 12,000 Â*
Box Size: 2" x 2"


Footnotes:

GU: Will not fit vehicles with factory or aftermarket lower Fascia/Rollpan or Tube Bumper.



Weight-Carrying Capacity Â*Weight-Distributing Capacity

Tongue Weight - 750 lbs.
Gross Trailer Weight - 7500 lbs.
Â* Â*
Tongue Weight - 1200 lbs.
Gross Trailer Weight - 12,000 lbs.

Mine was bolted on. I did it myself. It used the existing frame holes with some bad ass bolts. Never had a lick of problem and I have towed to the max of my old truck. 8500 lbs. Not far, but did it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
yeah bud - that ROCKS - if ONLY they had one for my car now http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

Red Horse
10-25-2006, 07:48 PM
They will have one. Hang in there. Might even have one and dont know it yet!

vmjtc3
10-25-2006, 07:52 PM
This article say's your hitch is rated to 7700# http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
http://www.autoblog.com/2006....day-1-2 (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/27/2007-chevrolet-tahoe-lt-in-the-autoblog-garage-day-1-2/)

BADFISH II
10-25-2006, 08:09 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Oct. 25 2006, 8:52 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This article say's your hitch is rated to 7700# http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
http://www.autoblog.com/2006....day-1-2 (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/27/2007-chevrolet-tahoe-lt-in-the-autoblog-garage-day-1-2/)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
strange (I'm getting really bummed now)

I went and looked again:

WEIGHT CARRYING ------> 5,000 LBS.
WEIGHT DISTRIBUTING---> 10,000 LBS.


I just looked ALL over the net, can't find a single one made for the 07 Yukon. I find several for the 06 - the frame can't be THAT much different can it? I don't think I want to find out if it's not quite right. Anyone who puts it one should know though - I would imagine maybe one of these guys here could TRY at least to see if the frame is the same no?

digginfordollars
10-25-2006, 09:45 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 25 2006, 1:39 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so essentially I bought a car with a 9,400 towing capacity that has a 5,000 hitch on it

http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Still happy you bought the Chevy? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Rude
10-25-2006, 10:09 PM
i know a guy with a slightly older tahoe he'd trade ya http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrinbounce2.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 06:41 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (digginfordollars @ Oct. 25 2006, 10:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 25 2006, 1:39 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so essentially I bought a car with a 9,400 towing capacity that has a 5,000 hitch on it

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Still happy you bought the Chevy? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
It's a GMC, and YES - we are, I just need a hitch to tow with http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/angry.gif


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http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

kevnmcd
10-26-2006, 07:04 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (digginfordollars @ Oct. 25 2006, 10:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 25 2006, 1:39 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">so essentially I bought a car with a 9,400 towing capacity that has a 5,000 hitch on it

http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/brutal.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Still happy you bought the Chevy? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No other auto maker has anything like the Suburban now, so I guess Chevy's are better than Ford's! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 07:18 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 25 2006, 9:09 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Oct. 25 2006, 8:52 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This article say's your hitch is rated to 7700# http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
http://www.autoblog.com/2006....day-1-2 (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/27/2007-chevrolet-tahoe-lt-in-the-autoblog-garage-day-1-2/)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
strange (I'm getting really bummed now)

I went and looked again:

WEIGHT CARRYING ------> 5,000 LBS.
WEIGHT DISTRIBUTING---> 10,000 LBS.


I just looked ALL over the net, can't find a single one made for the 07 Yukon. Â*I find several for the 06 - the frame can't be THAT much different can it? Â*I don't think I want to find out if it's not quite right. Â*Anyone who puts it one should know though - I would imagine maybe one of these guys here could TRY at least to see if the frame is the same no?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
you can pull 10k with that hitch if you have a 2 or 3 axel trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I all ready told you to see the guy on boulder!!!!!!!!!!!! I own a muffler and fab. shop, did hitches for 15 years, never had a problem. the problem with hitch rating is the weight laws, you can't pull 10k with that truck you will be over the weight law, so they word it that you can pull 10k with weight distributed, go weigh the trailer, as soon as you hook up to the truck you will have distributed about 800lbs to the truck, leaving only 6000 lbs on the trailer. I can plate that hitch to rate 15k lbs.[if you use a 15k ball!!!} it is just like the trailer companys. they put [3] 3500 lbs axels and say the gvcw is 10k, 10500 you need special lic. and they can't sell you the trailer. I will look [fix] the hitch you have, or tell you if it will or won't pull your boat, call me 496-4150, Steve


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2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 07:39 AM
the problem here isn't going to be the hitch as much as the low power, short wheel base, small brakes. underrated single rear tires, overheating the trans, light duty coolingsystem .light duty shocks.

what I would do is go pull a boat with the amount of weigt that you are thinking of buying and see how it does!

panic button
10-26-2006, 07:41 AM
So sayiing what you said on wieght, my trailer is rated 18,000#, and my hitch is 15,000#, I need a special license?? DMV gave me the same price for the trailer as my 3500#.

NHP pulled me over their only concern was if I was pulling over the max weight of the trailer/truck. They weighed the trailer and found the total weight was 11,800#, truck rated for 15,000# , they said sorry for delaying you have a nice day...

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 08:10 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (panic button @ Oct. 26 2006, 08:41 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So sayiing what you said on wieght, my trailer is rated 18,000#, and my hitch is 15,000#, I need a special license?? Â*DMV gave me the same price for the trailer as my 3500#.

NHP pulled me over their only concern was if I was pulling over the max weight of the trailer/truck. Â*They weighed the trailer and found the total weight was 11,800#, truck rated for 15,000# , they said sorry for delaying you have a nice day...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
when you get pulled over by DOT it's a different story, not so much here as they look the other way, cailf. they can and will make you un hook and have it towed, same with the 70ft long, 8'6" wide law, lot of people get away with over size but that doesen't mean it's legal. your drivers license state how much weight and axels you can drive, un less it's an rv.

not to be smarter than the average bear [cop] average age 29 but if you look on the back of your nev. lic.[everybody do that now]












see it , a class c lic. can pull up to a 10k trailer

I don't know why you learn all this stuff by being old but you do,
I was pulling out of the baker gas station with my old off road toy trailer look'n like the bev. hillbillys, you know all the quads standing up bar-b- que hose clamped on. fire wood stuffed in every avl. spot. we were hedded back to vegas and a white
[polar bear] cop car pulled me over, aand right there on the side of the road he gave me a collage level degree coarse on towing and hauling, kinda like a boat cop on a bad day. he finaly let me go home because my wife had big hooters and she and my kids started crying when he said I had to un hook the trailer and have it towed back to vegas by a tow company or have it impounded

panic button
10-26-2006, 08:19 AM
It was NHP's Transportation Division (NDOT)... The first thing they asked for was my oversize permit, wintil they measured and found the trailer was only 8'4", that opened the weight/towing issue. I do have a "J" endorsement, so that might be why they were not worried about the weight

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 08:36 AM
I bought a 2 car hauler trailer [3] 5200 lbs axels it could hall 15,600 lbs. the tag on the trailer said gcvw 10,000 lbs. when i questioned this the trailer sales guy said they do that so they could sell them in calif. to reg. driver licence people, if they put 15,600 you would have to show an indorsement to haul that much. any way http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 08:42 AM
This thread has a long way to go to catch up to theI SUNK MY BOAT Thread, but it is gaining http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/director.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blah_blah_blah.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/blah_blah_blah.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 08:45 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (panic button @ Oct. 26 2006, 09:19 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It was NHP's Transportation Division (NDOT)... Â*The first thing they asked for was my oversize permit, wintil they measured and found the trailer was only 8'4", that opened the weight/towing issue. Â*I do have a "J" endorsement, so that might be why they were not worried about the weight[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
oh, and , good to hear from you panic! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 08:48 AM
Hey Greg, where did you go http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 10:36 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 26 2006, 09:48 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey Greg, where did you go http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Just got back from client meetings

haven't read all of the responses yet

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 11:35 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 26 2006, 08:18 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 25 2006, 9:09 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">This article say's your hitch is rated to 7700# http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
http://www.autoblog.com/2006....day-1-2 (http://www.autoblog.com/2006/03/27/2007-chevrolet-tahoe-lt-in-the-autoblog-garage-day-1-2/)<span id='postcolor'>
strange (I'm getting really bummed now)

I went and looked again:

WEIGHT CARRYING ------> 5,000 LBS.
WEIGHT DISTRIBUTING---> 10,000 LBS.


I just looked ALL over the net, can't find a single one made for the 07 Yukon. Â*I find several for the 06 - the frame can't be THAT much different can it? Â*I don't think I want to find out if it's not quite right. Â*Anyone who puts it one should know though - I would imagine maybe one of these guys here could TRY at least to see if the frame is the same no?[/quote]
you can pull 10k with that hitch if you have a 2 or 3 axel trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I all ready told you to see the guy on boulder!!!!!!!!!!!! I own a muffler and fab. shop, did hitches for 15 years, never had a problem. the problem with hitch rating is the weight laws, you can't pull 10k with that truck you will be over the weight law, so they word it that you can pull 10k with weight distributed, go weigh the trailer, as soon as you hook up to the truck you will have distributed about 800lbs to the Â*truck, leaving only 6000 lbs on the trailer. I can plate that hitch to rate 15k lbs.[if you use a 15k ball!!!} it is just like the trailer companys. they put [3] 3500 lbs axels and say the gvcw is 10k, 10500 you need special lic. and they can't sell you the trailer. I will look [fix] the hitch you have, or tell you if it will or won't pull your boat, call me Â*496-4150, Steve


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That presents another problem then - because the tounge weight it says on the hitch is 600 lbs - friggin DUMB!

I'm in a pissy mood http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/glare.gif thanks to this damn hitch

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 11:44 AM
Just let me look at it monday before you do any thing http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/headshake.gif I'll be at the shop 11am -2pm http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif I have installed the hitches where you have to drill a hole or something for it to fit http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chainsaw.gif bolt ins usally don't bolt in http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cussing.gif I can look at it and tell if it will or won't do the job http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif so can the guy behind dirt addictions on boulder http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 12:11 PM
Action says put on the equalizing bars - about $420 done.

I guess that's the load leveling or weight distributing part - those bars in the picture.

Does anyone have any experience with that? Is that just the way to go?

I guess they NEED the trailer on the car to even install them, and I think they stay ON the trailer.

ANY input on these bars (which should put my towing capacity up to 10K lbs) would be GREATLY appreciated!

Havasu Dreamin
10-26-2006, 01:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 26 2006, 1:11 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Action says put on the equalizing bars - about $420 done.

I guess that's the load leveling or weight distributing part - those bars in the picture. Â*

Does anyone have any experience with that? Â*Is that just the way to go?

I guess they NEED the trailer on the car to even install them, and I think they stay ON the trailer. Â*

ANY input on these bars (which should put my towing capacity up to 10K lbs) would be GREATLY appreciated![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My dad had that type of hitch when he towed our travel trailer around. The bars were connected to the bottom of the hitch and the were connected to the trailer via chains at the end of the bars that were then run through a clamp-like device that was mounted to each side of the trailer frame.

The equalizing bars are the black bars going back from the hitch that are attached to the trailer frame by the chains in the picture below:

http://www.drawtite-hitches.com/WD/images/66006.jpg

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 01:22 PM
don't do it!!! have you ever seen any one with a suburban pull'n a twenty something boat with them http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif those are designed to take the tongue weight off, most boats don't have to much tongue weight they also put more stress on the hitch http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif


once again that hitch will pull that boat http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif at most it will need more bolts, or a plate to make the vertical bar stronger http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

some hitches are rated lower because of the way the safety chains hook up and some because of the way it is attached, not enough bolts or too small of bolts. and some because the vertical bar is lighter gauge. all of which can be up graded


you have a vertical bar, 2 side plates, reciever tube and a safety chain plate. no rocket or space ship parts http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif all of which can be beefed up the biggest deal is the ball and the shaft size. most hitch failures occure from too small of a ball shaft size and too week of a drop reciever http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 01:27 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 26 2006, 1:11 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Action says put on the equalizing bars - about $420 done.

I guess that's the load leveling or weight distributing part - those bars in the picture. Â*

Does anyone have any experience with that? Â*Is that just the way to go?

I guess they NEED the trailer on the car to even install them, and I think they stay ON the trailer. Â*

ANY input on these bars (which should put my towing capacity up to 10K lbs) would be GREATLY appreciated![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
make sure you put on the rainbow sticker that comes with it http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 01:41 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 26 2006, 2:27 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Oct. 26 2006, 1:11 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Action says put on the equalizing bars - about $420 done.

I guess that's the load leveling or weight distributing part - those bars in the picture. Â*

Does anyone have any experience with that? Â*Is that just the way to go?

I guess they NEED the trailer on the car to even install them, and I think they stay ON the trailer. Â*

ANY input on these bars (which should put my towing capacity up to 10K lbs) would be GREATLY appreciated![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
make sure you put on Â*the rainbow sticker that comes with it http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah - I know - it's the LAST thing I wanna do, but at the end of the day if I get in a wreck pulling a 7K lb boat/trailer on a hitch rated 5K lbs it's MY fault http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/insane.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 01:44 PM
I have spring bars on this trailer, lots of tongue weight with 3 quads, 2 dirt bikes, 50 gal. of gas, floor jack , tool box, ect, all in front of the trailer wheels so the sand rail will fit

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 01:48 PM
http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/boobies.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 01:52 PM
GEEEEEZZZZZZ!

OK, Sun Valley Bumper - Rich over there - just might be my new favorite friend. It sounds like Putnam Hitch (http://www.putnamhitch.com) makes one that is rated to 15K lbs and might bolt right on. I'm hoping, they're in Detroit so closed right now - but I'll know more tomorrow!

This is the ONLY guy that is actually taking the time to research it to help me out! COOL!

Greg (<----having a slightly better day now)

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 02:08 PM
is that so, you made a call and you're ready to give him six hundred bucks cause he said it might fit? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 02:10 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 26 2006, 3:08 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">is that so, you made a call and you're ready to give him six hundred bucks cause he said it might fit? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/chin_scratch.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
NOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!

He said he's going to folllow up on it with the manufacturer in the morning AAAANNNNNDDDDDD it's only $250 plus $60 or so installation - cheaper than the bars!

He said putnam hitch has been around forever.

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 02:13 PM
you should have called auto zone http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif as titties would say " i just made a funny"

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 02:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 26 2006, 3:13 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">you should have called auto zone http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif Â*as titties would say " i just made a funny"[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I WISH it was that easy http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/headshake.gif

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 02:21 PM
5k hitch

2FORCEFULL
10-26-2006, 02:29 PM
8k hitch, the only differance between the two is the vertical bar is plated and bolted [4 bolts per side] and the grade of bolts. all of which can be up graded for less than $50.

I figured that 25 years experince in muffler/hitches accounted for more than look'n up a part # and saying this might fit http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

BADFISH II
10-26-2006, 02:56 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Oct. 26 2006, 3:29 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">8k hitch, the only differance between the two is the vertical bar is plated and bolted [4 bolts per side] Â*and the grade of bolts. all of which can be up graded for less than $50.

I figured that 25 years experince in muffler/hitches accounted for more than look'n up a part # and saying this might fit http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That's great and all, but at the end of the day it's the damn sticker that can get me in hot water. Just because I upgrade bolts and stuff - which may be just perfect to tow more weight - doesn't mean if I get in a wreck and get sued I'd win.

Call me paranoid - but I'd rather go to the end of the line looking for a fully rated 10K hitch before I start thinking about settling ya know?

http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif

BADFISH II
10-31-2006, 11:25 AM
BUNCH OF SH!T! ! !

Made over a dozen calls AND wasted a Saturday morning at Sun Valley Bumper - NO HITCH WILL FIT! Valley, Hidden Hitch, Curt, Draw Tite, Reese - NONE OF THEM!

No one has one or plans to make one. BUT I did hear the Draw Tite IS in fact going to make one - 6 to 8 weeks. That was AFTER the company told me directly they weren't going to make one.

I even had one place tell me they don't make them because my car comes with a hitch on it and removing it and exchanging it would negatively affect the integrity of the frame/vehichle/towing. Bunch of SH!T I tell you!

I don't even think the load stabilizing bars will fit without tearing up the bumper because of the way it's molded. Basically - if I want to rip out the middle lower section of the bumper I can do it - but that sucks!

GRRRR!

RodnJen
10-31-2006, 12:42 PM
I was going to ask you how you like the new 3/4 tow vehicle but after all this, I think I will wait a few months.

I have a 3/4 crew but will likely move to a Sub or Yuk as the need arises, but like I said, I'll wait.

BADFISH II
10-31-2006, 01:24 PM
Well - we LOVE the car - I'm just completely miffed at why they would put a 5K lb capacity hitch on a 9,400 lb towing capacity vehicle. Bunch of SH!T (I think I already said that http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Other than that - it's a GREAT vehicle - the wife really loves it. I don't know how we ever got along without the nav and dvd for her and the kids. She doesn't get lost, and the kids are silent everywhere we go now - YEAH!

kevnmcd
10-31-2006, 02:23 PM
That sucks, G!

BADFISH II
10-31-2006, 02:31 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Oct. 31 2006,15:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That sucks, G![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm just going to keep making calls and harrassing the manufacturers until they have one for me!

dicudmore
10-31-2006, 08:14 PM
Greg the weight distributing and all that bullshit you are talking about really applies to "toy-box" and travel trailers...boat trailers have so little tongue weight YOU DO NOT NEED THAT CRAP...
I just checked the hitch on my dually--its rated for less than I tow regularly without weight distributing...Marks Spectre is pushing 12,000 lbs on the trailer, and does not even squat the truck--much less bend the hitch etc. The stock hitch is FINE for your future boat

2FORCEFULL
11-01-2006, 04:16 AM
SURE WISH I COULD PUT ONE OF THEM SMILEYS RIGHT ABOUT NOW!!!!

2FORCEFULL
11-01-2006, 04:41 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Oct. 31 2006,21:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg the weight distributing and all that bullshit you are talking about really applies to "toy-box" and travel trailers...boat trailers have so little tongue weight YOU DO NOT NEED THAT CRAP...
I just checked the hitch on my dually--its rated for less than I tow regularly without weight distributing...Marks Spectre is pushing 12,000 lbs on the trailer, and does not even squat the truck--much less bend the hitch etc. Â*The stock hitch is FINE for your future boat[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
GOOD LUCK!!!,as i told him eight pages ago his hitch is fine, I can up grade it , also[i am being forced to spam} THE HITCH SHOP, that's the name of the business, located at 3744 BOULDER HIGHWAY, PH # 457-1313. will up grade, or custom build a hitch to any weight rating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


the only reason muffler shops quit building custom hitches is cause they build them in mexico, or mass produce them at a sweat house's using $8 hr welders that aren't certified and it's tooo hard to compete. any carpenter can tell you how big of a beam you need for load weight, same as any hitch builder can look at a hitch, look at the size of material and tell you if you can pull your boat or not safely



" I SUNK MY BOAT"

"I CAN'T PULL MY BOAT

THEY BOTH SOUND ABOUT THE SAME, Everyone is trying to help. but neither want to be helped, One wants his boat pulled out of the water, one wants his boat pulled in the water. I don't think either one of them even have a boat!!!

where's the f'n smileys when you need them!!!#$$#$#@@

HEY TITTIES, I JUST MADE A FUNNY!!!

2FORCEFULL
11-01-2006, 04:43 AM
HEY, JUST SO YOU KNOW i WAS LAUGHING the whole time iwas posting

BADFISH II
11-01-2006, 05:45 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Nov. 01 2006,05:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Oct. 31 2006,21:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg the weight distributing and all that bullshit you are talking about really applies to "toy-box" and travel trailers...boat trailers have so little tongue weight YOU DO NOT NEED THAT CRAP...
I just checked the hitch on my dually--its rated for less than I tow regularly without weight distributing...Marks Spectre is pushing 12,000 lbs on the trailer, and does not even squat the truck--much less bend the hitch etc. Â*The stock hitch is FINE for your future boat[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
GOOD LUCK!!!,as Â*i told him eight pages ago his hitch is fine, I can up grade it , also[i am being forced to spam} THE HITCH SHOP, that's the name of the business, located at 3744 BOULDER HIGHWAY, PH # 457-1313. will up grade, or custom build a hitch to any weight rating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!


the only reason muffler shops quit building custom hitches is cause they build them in mexico, or mass produce them at a sweat house's using Â*$8 hr welders that aren't certified and it's tooo hard to compete. any carpenter can tell you how big of a beam you need for load weight, same as any hitch builder can look at a hitch, look at the size of material and tell you if you can pull your boat or not safely



" I SUNK MY BOAT"

"I CAN'T PULL MY BOAT

THEY BOTH SOUND ABOUT THE SAME, Everyone is trying to help. but neither want to be helped, One wants his boat pulled out of the water, one wants his boat pulled in the water. I don't think either one of them even have a boat!!!

where's the f'n smileys when you need them!!!#$$#$#@@

Â* HEY TITTIES, I JUST MADE A FUNNY!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm going to call that place on Boulder today and see what they can do for us.

Granted there's a 99% chance I'll never have a problem towing the boat (by the way, my hitch tounge weight is only rated to 600lbs) - but for the 1% I'd rather bust my tail trying to make it 100%. With my luck, I'll hit that 1% and it will be negligence on my part.

BADFISH II
11-01-2006, 10:01 AM
Just got off the phone with Rick at the hitch shop. He called around and even talked to draw tite direct. It seems that the hitch on my vehicle is "integral" to the car - basically it's part of the vehicle. SO - he says there isn't a manufacturer out there that will make one at this point because they don't think they'll sell any of them - because EVERY new vehicle has a hitch already on it. He said the other manufacturers don't have anything slated for this either.

That being said - he said he sees all kinds of people tow over the limit, but he wouldn't do it. If something happens it's negligence and I'm liable for towing 7 to 8K lbs on a hitch rated for 5K lbs.

I'm going to call and bitch at GM next.

I'm also going to take the car over there for rick to take a look at it and see if there's any way he can beef it up. Legally it wouldn't help an ounce because it wouldn't be rated at class V, but for peace of mind it would.

I know this sounds stupid to a lot of you guys, but with the family and business I just can't take the risk - if there was a chance something would happen it would be my dumb luck!

I have to think that eventually someone is going to make a class V hitch for it - but who knows when.

2FORCEFULL
11-01-2006, 01:14 PM
Well I couldn't take it anymore, went to pat clark GMC to check this situation out. hate to say it but, I WAS WRONG!!!, the new hitch on the GMC's is nothing more than a bumper with a reciever hole, the hole is only about 2 1/2" deep so when you stick it in it comes out the other side. its bolted to the frame with two 3/8" bolts on either side, I wouldn't try to pull my pud with that hitch, let alone a 29' boat. so now I know!!!{ insert imaginary funny smiley's here]

panic button
11-01-2006, 01:33 PM
Should have bought a Ford...

2FORCEFULL
11-01-2006, 01:56 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (panic button @ Nov. 01 2006,14:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Should have bought a Ford...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
he he he he he!!!! panic made a funny!
he ment DODGE

BADFISH II
11-01-2006, 02:02 PM
From Panic

Should have bought a Ford...

Yeah - I'm starting to second guess myself on that right now to be honest. What a bunch of SH!T!

BADFISH II
11-01-2006, 02:06 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Nov. 01 2006,14:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well I couldn't take it anymore, went to pat clark GMC to check this situation out. hate to say it but, I WAS WRONG!!!, the new hitch on the GMC's is nothing more than a bumper with a reciever hole, the hole is only about 2 1/2" deep so when you stick it in it comes out the other side. its bolted to the frame with two 3/8" bolts on either side, I wouldn't try to pull my pud with that hitch, let alone a 29' boat. so now I know!!!{ insert imaginary funny smiley's here][/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Normally I take some bit of joy from someone admitting they're wrong - not in this case!

dicudmore
11-01-2006, 02:10 PM
Greg just buy the fockin' boat and store it in Havasu...
When you want it launched you can use my dually--and we'll take the risk on your truck with my 30'
The 30' is at MAX 5,000lbs on the trailer

BADFISH II
11-01-2006, 02:33 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Nov. 01 2006,15:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg just buy the fockin' boat and store it in Havasu...
When you want it launched you can use my dually--and we'll take the risk on your truck with my 30'
The 30' is at MAX 5,000lbs on the trailer[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I think I might just keep it there in Havasu like you said, at least for the winter.

BADFISH II
11-01-2006, 02:44 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Nov. 01 2006,15:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Nov. 01 2006,15:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg just buy the fockin' boat and store it in Havasu...
When you want it launched you can use my dually--and we'll take the risk on your truck with my 30'
The 30' is at MAX 5,000lbs on the trailer[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I think I might just keep it there in Havasu like you said, at least for the winter.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
By the way - storage is WAY cheaper in Havasu!

panic button
11-01-2006, 02:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Nov. 01 2006,15:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">From Panic

Should have bought a Ford...

Yeah - I'm starting to second guess myself on that right now to be honest. Â*What a bunch of SH!T![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My Excursion had a 10K# hitch standard. The wife loves driving the dually, people seem to get out of the way faster than the Excursion...

It all boils down to the government threating mandates with SUV's vs. sub-compacts in crashes.

2FORCEFULL
11-01-2006, 03:19 PM
If you are going to tow, dually is the way to go!!!

dicudmore
11-01-2006, 06:06 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Nov. 01 2006,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to tow, dually is the way to go!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I second that

dicudmore
11-01-2006, 06:08 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Nov. 01 2006,15:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Lakemead1 @ Nov. 01 2006,15:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Greg just buy the fockin' boat and store it in Havasu...
When you want it launched you can use my dually--and we'll take the risk on your truck with my 30'
The 30' is at MAX 5,000lbs on the trailer<span id='postcolor'>
I think I might just keep it there in Havasu like you said, at least for the winter.[/quote]
By the way - storage is WAY cheaper in Havasu![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
all the more reason to be boating down there

kevnmcd
11-01-2006, 07:00 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Nov. 01 2006,19:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (2FORCEFULL @ Nov. 01 2006,16:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to tow, dually is the way to go!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I second that[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Mine tows great and it's not a dually....of course, I am only towing about 6K.

dicudmore
11-01-2006, 07:06 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Nov. 01 2006,20:00)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Nov. 01 2006,19http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to tow, dually is the way to go!!!<span id='postcolor'>
I second that[/quote]
Mine tows great and it's not a dually....of course, I am only towing about 6K.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
yeah yeah--you're also the guy that says 4WD is over-rated for towing boats...

kevnmcd
11-02-2006, 06:19 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Nov. 01 2006,20:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Nov. 01 2006,20http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to tow, dually is the way to go!!!<span id='postcolor'>
I second that
Mine tows great and it's not a dually....of course, I am only towing about 6K.[/quote]
yeah yeah--you're also the guy that says 4WD is over-rated for towing boats...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
blah, blah, blah......

BTW....4wd is over-rated for towing! :-)

dicudmore
11-02-2006, 09:40 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Nov. 02 2006,07:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (dicudmore @ Nov. 01 2006,20http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/cgi-bin/forum/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If you are going to tow, dually is the way to go!!!<span id='postcolor'>
I second that
Mine tows great and it's not a dually....of course, I am only towing about 6K.
yeah yeah--you're also the guy that says 4WD is over-rated for towing boats...[/quote]
blah, blah, blah......

BTW....4wd is over-rated for towing! Â*:-)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
it sure is--until you get stuck

panic button
11-03-2006, 08:07 AM
Someone make sure they take a ton of pictures when he can get up the ramp...

2FORCEFULL
11-03-2006, 02:56 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (panic button @ Nov. 03 2006,09:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Someone make sure they take a ton of pictures when he can get up the ramp...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
oh yeah and don't go to lake elsinore
[smiley laughing his ass off]