how much $ to leave your current job

[FUN4ME]

I was offered a job the other day. ( I wasn't looking).
Anyway, there would be a significant pay raise.
The problems are I would no longer work in Hemet. (Currently, I drive 5 miles from home to work).
The other company is in Elsinore (about an hour drive each way).
I have 3 day weekends now (four 10hr days).The other place is five 8 hr days.
I can currently get ANY TIME off that I want.With the new job, I would get a week vacation after a year.

I currently work with my dad and we both know that I am underpaid, but there are some great benefits.
I am not unhappy at work but the job offer has me thinking.
What should I do? Â*Your opinions are requested.
Thanks Erich

[kevnmcd]

I have learned that there is more to life than making a lot of money! Being happy and enjoying what you do is sometimes more rewarding than making more money, especially if our current employment pays the bills and boating habit! Just my .02 http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[FUN4ME]

It is the same basic job CNC programing, editing, and set up.
and about 10,000 a year increase in pay.

Make enough money that money doesn't matter... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

[PUMP 'HER']

Tough call Erich. Personally I could be motivated to leave for very little. I don't do much, never put in more than 8, time off usually isn't an issue, but I could make more elsewhere. Lets put it like this, if someone would pay me more to do the same thing, I'm gone. If it's going to cut into my family time, be longer hours or weekend work, no thanks. At the same time I am always looking for something better, you never know. In your situation it sounds like you have it pretty good. So I guess you need to ask yourself 'how much do I need 10K'.

[digginfordollars]

Significant pay raise? Is it? You currently work a straight 40 hours a week in four days. New job (with drive time added in) 50 hours in five days. 52 weeks a year minus one vacation =510 extra hours a year. So, pay raise or just more hours for more money?

Three day weekends are awesome although it may be a possiblity at the new job.

Working with Dad can't be beat, it won't last forever.

Ask for a raise where your at, worse they can say is no.

[PUMP 'HER']

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (digginfordollars @ Feb. 09 2006, 9:53 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Working with Dad can't be beat, it won't last forever.

Ask for a raise where your at, worse they can say is no.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Very good points right there. Use the new offer as a little leverage for a raise.

You must not be drinkin' tonight clear headed Kurt.

[digginfordollars]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (PUMP 'HER' @ Feb. 09 2006, 10:01 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You must not be drinkin' tonight clear headed Kurt.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah right http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/ohboy.gif

[Red Horse]

Happiness is worth a lot. If you make $$$$$ and really hate going to work, cant change or managment wont listen to you then you will long for the old days.

Remember the grass aint always greener on the other side, it is just grass.

We all like money, but if you add it all up like Diggin did, you prolly might make about the same.

I would stay, cause you will OWN the biz soon enough!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

[Nordic'rner]

Stay where you're at. By the time you add the extra expense of driving and the extra hours the raise won't be worth it. Gas prices aren't coming down.

[BigSoundRacing]

Stay right where you are!

[mardonzi]

Rule of thumb that I was once told is 20%. If the increase is 20% or greater,, then it's a viable option.

Granted, alot depends on the enviroment you are in. Currently I am being courted by a couple of headhunters and if they can guarantee me 3 day weekends and the same bennies I have now,, I might just have to make the move.

[kevnmcd]

Kurt made some very good points! I guess that is why he owns his own business and we all work for someone else. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

When I switched last summer, I already had a job that I liked, so when I was in negotiations with the new company, I threw out ridiculous items that I wanted: Full control of the department, 4 weeks vacation available the day I started, car allowance, full company paid health insurance for me and the family, cell allowance, parking, a salary range that was about $25K more than the going rate, & signing bonus, I had nothing to lose and all they could say was no. Â*They went for everything and we settled on a salary and bonus. Â*The difference in not driving 3 hours/200 miles everyday was well worth it...

[NdaWind]

You said you hate your job now, but you will be doing the same thing so moving on may not make you happy. Like the others said the 10k doesn't add up to a sufficent realized increase to your pocket. You can't buy time and time off even if youi can't afford to do anything is something the some of us would consider a luxury bennie. Driving from Hemet to Elsinore is not gonna be fun now and a few years with population growth will only get worse.

Stay Put - you don't know how good you got it until its gone. Though I would try to get a little more from where you are now, never hurts to ask NICELY.

You'll never get rich work for someone else and if you have half a chance to own the business then you'll have something tangable.

[Nordic'rner]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NdaWind @ Feb. 10 2006, 08:22 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You said you hate your job now,[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
HUH? Had to go back an re-read. He said he was not unhappy at work.

[duckbutter]

10,000 is about $830 a month. With the extra mileage this will
up your gas bill by at least 2-300 a month depending on what you drive
and like everyone else says time off is incredibly important
I also work for my family and can get time off anytime that I want
and it's great (other than my wife can't always)
In my boatless opinion I think working for family makes me feel
alot better where as working for a corp. I wouldn't feel nearly
as valued(which would be pretty hard to do) http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
But you got to do what's best for you
If you are having financial problems maybe it would be a good
move.
But I've notice no matter how much I make it's never enough
so if you can get by on what your making and are happy with it
don't mess with a good thing http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/Thanx.gif

and remember I'm only 26 so what the hell do i know

[NdaWind]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nordic'rner @ Feb. 10 2006, 09:07 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NdaWind @ Feb. 10 2006, 08:22 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You said you hate your job now,[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
HUH? Had to go back an re-read. He said he was not unhappy at work.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Damn I need to quit speed reading these posts http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smashfreak.gif

[FUN4ME]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Nordic'rner @ Feb. 10 2006, 09:07 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (NdaWind @ Feb. 10 2006, 08:22 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You said you hate your job now,[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
HUH? Had to go back an re-read. He said he was not unhappy at work.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thanks, I went back to make sure I didn't post wrong.
I DO like my job.

As Ken stated, the shop will be mine if I stay long enough.
That has been my intention all along. I just wanted some opinions from others that have had more experience in changing jobs than I have.

Kurt also made the point of extra time to and from work, if I were willing to put in the same TOTAL hours (including drive time) at my curent job I would actually be ahead.
Then there is the gas and wear and tear on the car.


ALL great responses. Thanks for your input.

[HavasuHome]

I worked 4/10s for 24 years before I retired and I would not have changed that for anything. I enjoyed my 3 day weekends and when HD was in grammar and junior high school we made a lot of trips to the river. As others have said money is not everything. Look what you would be giving up- 4 day work week, short drive to work, not to count the vacation and time off you would loose. And of course the benefit of working with your father. That is a benefit that you can not put a price or value on. In my opinion I would stay where you are.

[SteveC]

You can't put a "price" on working with your dad and family. You've got something that a lot of us wish we had. Your 4/10 is the best work schedule and is also something to think about. I'd stay with dad and the 4/10. Good luck in your decision ! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (SteveC @ Feb. 10 2006, 7:11 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can't put a "price" on working with your dad and family. You've got something that a lot of us wish we had. Your 4/10 is the best work schedule and is also something to think about. I'd stay with dad and the 4/10. Good luck in your decision ! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Work with my dad, and I'd never do it again... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/argue.gif

[THOR]

I have often thought of going out on my own, buying my own equipment (loader and excavator) and doing some demolition and trenching. But, I am too much of a pussy to actually take the leap. If I didnt have kids, I'd be all over it just to be on my own. I see how much these guys make and it sickens me.

[Essex502]

Stay put. Commuting sux. I commute 2-1/2 hours or more every work day. I do have a 9/80 schedule as does E502.5 so we're off for 3 day weekends every other week. But...the commute will get to you after a while. Stay put. Money isn't everything.

[TooMuchFun]

Kevnmcd and Red Horse ... Hear, Hear http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

Can't put a price tag on happiness coupled with free time http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

I've had some offers of late to move back to the east coast for more cash, but then I think of the weather here, the boating, the friends, and the hassle of moving, and have said thanks but no thanks so far ...

TooMuchFun

[DCfive]

Erich, I'd say stay put also. If you and your Dad have a good working relationship (which it sounds like you do) you should stay. Having flexible hours and having a future stake in a business is huge. Also, not that 10 grand isn't a lot, but if you break it down by week after taxes, it is only $135.00 a week. Thats based on a 30% tax bracket. Not much when you consider all that you may lose in the process.
Just my humble .02.

[captd]

I have learned that my time is more valuble than my money and 3 days off is nice !!!!!!!! I would stay. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/boobies.gif

[kimswang]

So, what did you do? new job???

[FUN4ME]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kimswang @ Feb. 19 2006, 10:29 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, what did you do? Â*new job???[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I am still with my dad. We are expecting a new contract and upon receival of the new contract, I will be receiving a raise http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[Red Horse]

Way to negotiate!!!

Get your Dad to have your Mom throw in 2 homecooked lunches a week as well. Nothing like Moms cookin, no matter how old you are!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

[PUMP 'HER']

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Red Horse @ Feb. 22 2006, 10:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Nothing like Moms cookin, no matter how old you are!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sorry gotta disagree with you on this one RH. Mom isn't the best cook in the world here. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[kevnmcd]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (FUN4ME @ Feb. 22 2006, 9:35 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kimswang @ Feb. 19 2006, 10:29 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, what did you do? Â*new job???[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I am still with my dad. We are expecting a new contract and upon receival of the new contract, I will be receiving a raise http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Good luck on the new contract! Glad to hear things are working out.

[DCfive]

Congrats Erich, sounds like things worked out well.