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vmjtc3
08-22-2005, 04:31 PM
Looking for a 502 block,heads or complete long block. If you have one hanging out in the back corner of your shop and dont need it any more let me know. New motor only has eleven hours on it and I think I heard the tell tell hollow knock of a bad main this weekend http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif

kevnmcd
08-23-2005, 09:20 AM
I have a working 502 I will sell you for say...$6,000.00. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif It may need a little work but still runs good! Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif Â* Then I could go get a real motor built for my rig. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/aktion033.gif

vmjtc3
08-23-2005, 10:07 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Aug. 23 2005, 10:20 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have a working 502 I will sell you for say...$6,000.00. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif It may need a little work but still runs good! Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif Â* Then I could go get a real motor built for my rig. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/aktion033.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That wouldnt be the same 502 you are thinkin needs to be rebuilt after this summer is it. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eek3.gif

kevnmcd
08-23-2005, 10:11 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Aug. 23 2005, 11:07 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Aug. 23 2005, 10:20 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have a working 502 I will sell you for say...$6,000.00. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rolleyes.gif It may need a little work but still runs good! Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif Â* Then I could go get a real motor built for my rig. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/aktion033.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That wouldnt be the same 502 you are thinkin needs to be rebuilt after this summer is it. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eek3.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep....wanna buy it? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrinbounce2.gif

08-23-2005, 09:55 PM
I've got one, 502 HO motor complete, just needs a new rod.

vmjtc3
08-23-2005, 11:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 23 2005, 10:55 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've got one, 502 HO motor complete, just needs a new rod.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Complete? as in longblock or pan to carb complete? or some where in between. How much? I would send myne back to the builder but it has been 13 months into a 12 month warranty. With only 11 hours http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/traurig001.gif
oh well what can you do. Build another one I guess http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
So I figure instead of building a 454 mag again I would try a 502 and see what happens http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

08-23-2005, 11:33 PM
I only had a short time to get my boat back on the water before my wife left and I bought a long block. Â*So it's everything except the intake and carb, and the accessories that went on the new motor. Â*It's going to be rebuilt and put on the stand just incase I dumped another motor, but if you want it let me know.

Trouble Maker
08-23-2005, 11:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Aug. 24 2005, 12:07 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 23 2005, 10:55 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've got one, 502 HO motor complete, just needs a new rod.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Complete? as in longblock or pan to carb complete? or some where in between. How much? I would send myne back to the builder but it has been 13 months into a 12 month warranty. With only 11 hours Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/traurig001.gif
oh well what can you do. Build another one I guess http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif
So I figure instead of building a 454 mag again I would try a 502 and see what happens Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I've got a set of GM rods...the good ones..

kevnmcd
08-24-2005, 07:17 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 23 2005, 10:55 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've got one, 502 HO motor complete, just needs a new rod.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Chris - How many hours on it? What is the hp rating? What is your price? Why just a rod....what happened?

vmjtc3
08-24-2005, 08:46 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kevnmcd @ Aug. 24 2005, 08:17 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 23 2005, 10:55 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've got one, 502 HO motor complete, just needs a new rod.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Chris - How many hours on it? Â*What is the hp rating? Â*What is your price? Â*Why just a rod....what happened?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Easy there sheriff. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/duel.gif
you tryin to hone in on my motor??
wouldnt want to relive an old slowhand tune would we? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rollinglaugh.gif


I shot the sheriff but I swear it was in big block defense!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Just givin you a hard time http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

vmjtc3
08-24-2005, 08:49 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 24 2005, 12:33 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I only had a short time to get my boat back on the water before my wife left and I bought a long block. Â*So it's everything except the intake and carb, and the accessories that went on the new motor. Â*It's going to be rebuilt and put on the stand just incase I dumped another motor, but if you want it let me know.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sounds like it would fit the bill. How much??
I may not have to miss to much boating after all

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08-24-2005, 09:58 AM
Less than 100 hours on it, I took the valve covers off and the thing was clean. It's an HO (magnum) motor so stock HP is around 435hp. I don't know what happened to the motor, just that it has rod knock, took it out the first weekend we got the boat, and 1 motor died, the shop thinks it got water in the cyclinder from the inline mufflers. I pulled all the plugs and there wasn't any water in any of them, so who knows, could just be a bearing that went.

Trouble Maker
08-24-2005, 10:57 AM
I'm bored... Bring it over to my garage and I'll rebuild it....

08-24-2005, 10:59 AM
I need a truck to pick it up...

Trouble Maker
08-24-2005, 11:01 AM
I've got a truck...you got a hoist??

I've got a hoist, but it's a pain in the ass to load and unload..

08-24-2005, 11:04 AM
The motor is still at the shop that did the work, they have a hoist there.

Trouble Maker
08-24-2005, 11:08 AM
Well, if vmjtc3 wants to buy it...I can help him rebuild it easy enough.

It's not an EFI setup is it??

kevnmcd
08-24-2005, 11:14 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 24 2005, 12:08 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It's not an EFI setup is it??[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What's wrong with an EFI? http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

08-24-2005, 11:15 AM
No EFU I mean EFI

vmjtc3
08-24-2005, 05:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 24 2005, 12:08 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, if vmjtc3 wants to buy it...I can help him rebuild it easy enough.

It's not an EFI setup is it??[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey Thanks TM http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif
Sounds good (providing I can afford the thing in the first place) http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

vmjtc3
08-25-2005, 09:13 AM
Hey pb let me know when you decide on a price. Also who did you get your longblock from? I have been looking around and have found a few places. Gm has new ones for right around 6k. Would it be worth it in your opinion to go with new rather than a rebuild. Just wonderin cause the last rebuid by a dealer (k&h marine in orange) got me eleven hours. Not real spectacular id say. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif

08-25-2005, 09:27 AM
For the quickest route I'd go with a com-plete long block, because it comes with a 1 year warrenty. Â*Check 1800runsnew.com thier prices are good and they have them in stock for $5K. Â*The place I got mine at was $5600, but they could have it in Vegas in 2 days.

THis guy has HP500 at a good price http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-5746.html

Rebuilding is going to cost, the prices I got to rebuild it was about $2500, the crank is the big ticket item, because I can't be turned and is coated...

Trouble Maker
08-25-2005, 09:55 AM
Chris, is that a Gen 5 block with a one piece rear main seal? Are you sure the crank is damaged? If it's your standard GM forged crank these's no reason why it can't be turned, unless it's already be turned down .020. But if you do need a new crank Teague Marine sells the GM Forged ones for around $675, which isn't too bad.

Seriously, when you want to rebuild it just bring it over, I've got all the tools and I know the right people in town to do any machine and head work if needed. Using good parts and a good machinist is really the key to building a solid long lasting engine...a monkey could take it apart and put it back together.......

P.S. I work for beer...I don't really drink that much myself, but I'll need to stock up because that's how I pay D4$ to come over and pull the engines out of my boat and I'll be pulling them both out end of the season...

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Trouble Maker
08-25-2005, 10:02 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Aug. 25 2005, 10:13 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey pb let me know when you decide on a price. Also who did you get your longblock from? I have been looking around and have found a few places. Gm has new ones for right around 6k. Would it be worth it in your opinion to go with new rather than a rebuild. Just wonderin cause the last rebuid by a dealer (k&h marine in orange) got me eleven hours. Not real spectacular id say. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Any "new" short/long block you buy, isn't going to come out of the box set up right for marine use...they have a one year warranty and that's just about how long they'll last, like Chris said it's a quick fix. Â*Piston to cylinder side wall clearance for a marine engine needs to be between .005 to .006, it comes new set a .003 for automotive use, which isn't enough, if you want a long lasting engine. Â*Plus, they have cheap bearings, cheap rings, cheap valve springs, cheap valve guide seals. Â*$6k is a lot of money for what your actually getting. Â*Nothing the matter with a rebuilt engine as long as it's rebuilt right...

08-25-2005, 10:35 AM
The one I've got is a Gen5. The crank is nitrited, and turning removes the coating, what I was told. I'm not sure if the crank is damaged, going with the worse case on it. I have to get it and drop the pan to see exactly what's wrong. I hoping its just a rod, or a bearing. It could even be a bad cam, the distributer could have jumped causing the noise. It's not the typical rod going out sound. I didn't have time, at that time to have them tear it down, wanted the boat back on the water ASAP.

The 2 that I listed are Merc long blocks, so they are full marine motors, not truck motors. Mine came in a Merc crate and has a warrenty from Mercruiser.

We'll get together after I get the kids squared away from being at grandma's all summer and school going. It's a non issue right now because the boat runs, just another winter project.

vmjtc3
08-25-2005, 04:39 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 25 2005, 10:27 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the quickest route I'd go with a com-plete long block, because it comes with a 1 year warrenty. Â*Check 1800runsnew.com thier prices are good and they have them in stock for $5K. Â*The place I got mine at was $5600, but they could have it in Vegas in 2 days.

THis guy has HP500 at a good price http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-5746.html

Rebuilding is going to cost, the prices I got to rebuild it was about $2500, the crank is the big ticket item, because I can't be turned and is coated...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey how about this one. http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-6800.html
Sounds good to me http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif

08-25-2005, 05:22 PM
I saw that one too, the only thing about blower motors is they need rebuilds more often

vmjtc3
08-25-2005, 10:15 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 25 2005, 6:22 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I saw that one too, the only thing about blower motors is they need rebuilds more often[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
more often then every 11 hours http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Trouble Maker
08-25-2005, 10:25 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Aug. 25 2005, 5:39 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 25 2005, 10:27 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the quickest route I'd go with a com-plete long block, because it comes with a 1 year warrenty. Â*Check 1800runsnew.com thier prices are good and they have them in stock for $5K. Â*The place I got mine at was $5600, but they could have it in Vegas in 2 days.

THis guy has HP500 at a good price http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-5746.html

Rebuilding is going to cost, the prices I got to rebuild it was about $2500, the crank is the big ticket item, because I can't be turned and is coated...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey how about this one. http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-6800.html
Sounds good to me Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Note the corrosion...

Any used motor like that your just better off tearing it apart from the start and freshing it up....there's nothing worse than other people junk.. Just my 2 cents worth..

Trouble Maker
08-25-2005, 10:27 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Aug. 25 2005, 11:15 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 25 2005, 6:22 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I saw that one too, the only thing about blower motors is they need rebuilds more often[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
more often then every 11 hours http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Is your motor totally broken or do you just think it sounds funny??

vmjtc3
08-25-2005, 10:45 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 25 2005, 11:25 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For the quickest route I'd go with a com-plete long block, because it comes with a 1 year warrenty. Â*Check 1800runsnew.com thier prices are good and they have them in stock for $5K. Â*The place I got mine at was $5600, but they could have it in Vegas in 2 days.

THis guy has HP500 at a good price http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-5746.html

Rebuilding is going to cost, the prices I got to rebuild it was about $2500, the crank is the big ticket item, because I can't be turned and is coated...<span id='postcolor'>
Hey how about this one. http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-6800.html
Sounds good to me Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif
Note the corrosion...

Any used motor like that your just better off tearing it apart from the start and freshing it up....there's nothing worse than other people junk.. Â*Just my 2 cents worth..[/quote]
You are right about other peoples junk. I wouldnt want a sc motor anyway.


Motor developed a knock after it warms up. not a rod knock but more of a hollow non metalic knock like a bad main or something. It only knocks after you have been running for a while and then back it down to idle. It is loud at first and then after it idles for a little bit it gets quiet. But if you listen close you can still hear it. Plus this engine has been lacking power from the getgo. It has been a slug so I figure it's better to start over and have it rebuilt with quality parts and maybe an intake,cam ,and carb upgrade or Â*something. I dont want the fastest boat on the water but I dont want to drive a moving schicane either. Â*http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

Trouble Maker
08-25-2005, 11:12 PM
With a bad rod or main...you should be seeing a oil pressure problem as well. How's you pressure at cruising speed?

vmjtc3
08-26-2005, 11:32 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 26 2005, 12:12 am)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With a bad rod or main...you should be seeing a oil pressure problem as well. Â*How's you pressure at cruising speed?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The first few hours it would run at about 60 psi at speed
last couple of times out it was about 40-45 ish. I thought My gauge might have been a little funky so I pulled the sending unit for the low pres alarm out and installed a mech gauge instead just to see how close they were and they were both reading the same. I dont know if 40-45 is bad but it went from 60ish to 40ish in one trip. And that is what I thought was strange. Mercury gives you a broad range as normal 454 mag 2000 rpm 30-70. That doesnt give you much to go on.
And when I say it went in one trip that means engine hot after having been run it was around 60 to engine hot one the next trip psi 40 ish. It is of course higher during startup and warmup so I am not taking those numbers into consideration. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif

vmjtc3
08-26-2005, 11:37 AM
Also some one pointed out to me that it is possible to have these same problems if the drive and engine are not aligned.
Lack of power and strange noises. Is this a common problem?
One could think that the oil psi was higher during break-in due to tight clearances in the motor. Also how could I check alignment and set it if it needs to be done?? Thanks John http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

08-26-2005, 03:33 PM
TM can align your dive, he did mine, and it was a bitch. Oil pressure seems right mine is in the upper 60's when starting out and drops to high 40's after running a while. Hot oil = low pressure. It could be a coupler going also.

vmjtc3
08-26-2005, 05:46 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (vmjtc3 @ Aug. 26 2005, 12:32 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">And when I say it went in one trip that means engine hot after having been run it was around 60 to engine hot on the next trip psi 40 ish. It is of course higher during startup and warmup so I am not taking those numbers into consideration. Â* Â* Â* http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dunno.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That's what i was trying to say here. It was running 60ish hot it ran 60 all day long. Next trip it ran 40ish after warm up.

vmjtc3
08-26-2005, 05:52 PM
All I know is I am about ready to push this pos off a cliff and go buy a new one. Its amazing how one motor will last years (10) Then it has the engine and drive rebuild new wiring new gauges almost everything replaced or rebuilt and the fricken thing has only managed to run for 11 hours in the last year and a half http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/devil.gif

08-26-2005, 07:21 PM
The 454 in my Velocity had 600 hours on it and could have gone another 100 easily. No wear on the bearigns and the lifters looked good, just a little blow by on 2 valves, I doubt it had any head work done on it, still had the original merc head gaskets and seals on it.

vmjtc3
08-27-2005, 06:26 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 26 2005, 8:21 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The 454 in my Velocity had 600 hours on it and could have gone another 100 easily. Â*No wear on the bearigns and the lifters looked good, just a little blow by on 2 valves, I doubt it had any head work done on it, still had the original merc head gaskets and seals on it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
same with the original motor in the carrera. Thats why I think a new long block might be the way to go. You can get a new marine longblock from gm for about 6k. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

Trouble Maker
08-27-2005, 07:23 PM
I've got the tool to check your engine alignment... After aligning Panic Button's...I think I'll remember to go the right direction the first time. If you want to check it, let me know...I'll drive over to your house and check it for $50 plus a couple beers..

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Trouble Maker
08-27-2005, 07:30 PM
And, if you did have a sudden drop in oil pressure like you're describing...I would say you've got a bad main or rod bearing. Â*I know the season is almost over...but if you continue to use it and spin a main bearing, that will probably double the repair cost.

Just talk Chris into selling the 540 in his Velocity...he can replace that one with his 502 once he gets it overhauled....

vmjtc3
08-27-2005, 07:34 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 27 2005, 8:23 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I've got the tool to check your engine alignment... Â*After aligning Panic Button's...I think I'll remember to go the right direction the first time. Â*If you want to check it, let me know...I'll drive over to your house and check it for $50 plus a couple beers..

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After I order all the internals and send the block out for machine work how much will it cost me to have you help me assemble it. I will bring it over to you and buy the beer.
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Trouble Maker
08-27-2005, 08:28 PM
Just pull it out and bring it over...I've got all the stuff. I'd like to disassemble it myself if I/we are going to be putting it back together. The only machinist I trust in town is Dan Fultz and his shop is just a couple miles from my house, also if you want to dyno it, we can do that at Dan's Driveline which is just a few miles away as well.... Both these guys have reasonable rates and do outstanding work..... If you pulled the engine out Monday or Tuesday, we could get you back on the water within two weeks...one day to disassemble, order parts, about 4-5 days at the machine shop, two days to reassemble....... Piece of cake..

Were the heads just redone?? If it is a bad main we will probably want to had Dan line-bore the main journels to get them perfectly straight and the same size...we'll also have him check the crank to make sure it's not bent.....

Just let me know..

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vmjtc3
08-27-2005, 08:52 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 27 2005, 9:28 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just pull it out and bring it over...I've got all the stuff. Â*I'd like to disassemble it myself if I/we are going to be putting it back together. Â*The only machinist I trust in town is Dan Fultz and his shop is just a couple miles from my house, also if you want to dyno it, we can do that at Dan's Driveline which is just a few miles away as well.... Â*Both these guys have reasonable rates and do outstanding work..... Â*If you pulled the engine out Monday or Tuesday, we could get you back on the water within two weeks...one day to disassemble, order parts, about 4-5 days at the machine shop, two days to reassemble....... Â*Piece of cake..

Were the heads just redone?? Â*If it is a bad main we will probably want to had Dan line-bore the main journels to get them perfectly straight and the same size...we'll also have him check the crank to make sure it's not bent.....

Just let me know..

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I was hoping you new some good people. I am going to go out next weekend. Kids are back from vacation and wanting to hit the lake. After that I am pulling the thing out. The heads were just done 11 hours ago. But then again so was the rest of the engine and you see where I am with that so we might want to check them out as well. You would probably know better than I would. I want to see what kind of junk parts they used in this motor. Also I was thinking of ordering A 496 stroker kit with scat crank and all the good stuff. What do you think about going that route. Is it a good idea to stroke the 454 or would it be better to just leave it stock? I would not mind trying to get a few more hp out of it if possible. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

Trouble Maker
08-28-2005, 05:22 AM
I wouldn't know all the right things to do to stroke it, but we could look into it. Changing out the cam and doing a bit of head work would be easy enough though. What exhaust system do you have? Just let me know when your ready...

vmjtc3
08-28-2005, 04:10 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Trouble Maker @ Aug. 27 2005, 8:30 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">just talk Chris into selling the 540 in his Velocity...he can replace that one with his 502 once he gets it overhauled....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I wish, I dont think my pockets are deep enough for that. I am just a poor guy. Or I would have already orderd me a new boat with one of those fancy blue motors !!!!! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif

08-28-2005, 04:22 PM
I'd part with the 540 for $10K...

titties and beer
08-28-2005, 04:38 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Panic Button @ Aug. 28 2005, 6:22 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'd part with the 540 for $10K...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
WHAT?FUEL $$$$$$$$$$ http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/beerchug.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumb.gif

vmjtc3
08-28-2005, 06:33 PM
Lets see my motor is worth say 800 or so that leaves me only a $9200 bill. I think I would have to get a night job to cover that one http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/headshake.gif