Water Spots/Shore Anchor

[Vortexman]

Hello everyone.... hope you guys are all enjoying the lakes now that it is warm.

Had a couple questions.

When you guys pull your boats out of the water what do you use for water spots? I use Meguiar's Quick Detail and it works good. However, is there something cheaper that I can use while I am at the lake since I detail the boat when I get home. How bout Water & Vinegar?

Also, when you guys are chillin at the beach what do you use to tie your boat off (I do not want to beach it)? I have the spike stick to tie off the back, I tried to use the box anchor to tie off the front but the darn thing moves on me. Any of you use rock bags for shore?

Thanks for the info. Here is a pick of last weekend at Mohave. I am keeping an eye out for you guys but have not seen anyone yet.

[Vortexman]

One more

[Vortexman]

Can't forget the wife...........

[THOR]

Water and vinegar takes the wax off.

I use waxing frenzy now and also washwaxall. You can check out the latter at washwaxall.com.

Both work great and dont take the wax off.

[Vortexman]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (THOR @ June 09 2004, 6:34 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Water and vinegar takes the wax off.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That is what I was afraid of.

I will check it out... thanks.

[Havasu Dreamin]

What THOR said.

You use the box anchor off the front and it moves on you??? We've used the box anchor for 4 years and never had a problem, even with the Alandra and how much bigger it is, of course we did buy a larger box anchor to use for the front due to the additional weight. The key with the box anchor is making sure you have enough rope out.

For the back of the boat, when don't beach it, we use the Slide Anchor Sand Spike (http://www.slideanchor.com/spike.html). We also use this when we beach it to tie off the front of the boat.

[Vortexman]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ June 09 2004, 6:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What THOR said.

You use the box anchor off the front and it moves on you??? We've used the box anchor for 4 years and never had a problem, even with the Alandra and how much bigger it is, of course we did buy a larger box anchor to use for the front due to the additional weight. The key with the box anchor is making sure you have enough rope out.

For the back of the boat, when don't beach it, we use the Slide Anchor Sand Spike (http://www.slideanchor.com/spike.html). We also use this when we beach it to tie off the front of the boat.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I am probably just not using it right then. Maybe I am just too much of a rookie and not using it correctly. More rope then huh? I will try that.

I have the spike stick for the back and it works great.

Was your boat at essex last week?

[Rivercrazy]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ June 09 2004, 6:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What THOR said.

You use the box anchor off the front and it moves on you??? We've used the box anchor for 4 years and never had a problem, even with the Alandra and how much bigger it is, of course we did buy a larger box anchor to use for the front due to the additional weight. The key with the box anchor is making sure you have enough rope out.

For the back of the boat, when don't beach it, we use the Slide Anchor Sand Spike (http://www.slideanchor.com/spike.html). We also use this when we beach it to tie off the front of the boat.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What he said.

But for the spots I also use the Mcquires quick detailer spray. Since I switched from wax to a machine glaze, the detailer takes the water spots right off without any issues. And the machine glaze leave a much better shine on the boat than wax. Wax also gives dirt somewhere to stick to that the glaze doesn't.

I've been using a porter cable variable speed orbital buffer this season and its the best machine I've tried to date.

[Vortexman]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Rivercrazy @ June 09 2004, 6:52 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But for the spots I also use the Mcquires quick detailer spray. Â*Since I switched from wax to a machine glaze, the detailer takes the water spots right off without any issues. Â*And the machine glaze leave a much better shine on the boat than wax. Â*Wax also gives dirt somewhere to stick to that the glaze doesn't.

I've been using a porter cable variable speed orbital buffer this season and its the best machine I've tried to dat[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I use Rediant wax with a porter cable buffer and it works great. I will have to try the glaze to see how that works.

[roln 20s]

Talk to John (warlock25) about his "Spray wax" by Frenzy--www.attn-to-detail.com. That stuff is amazing, takes off water spots and waxes everything at the same time. 2 steps in was less than half the time.

As for the vinegar and water- my brother swore by that technigue for the last 3 yeras--and now I am color sanding, buffing and waxing the boat to give it its life back. I would never recommend that.

Roln 20s

[HavasuHome]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Vortexman @ June 09 2004, 5:49 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Havasu Dreamin @ June 09 2004, 6:45 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What THOR said.

You use the box anchor off the front and it moves on you??? We've used the box anchor for 4 years and never had a problem, even with the Alandra and how much bigger it is, of course we did buy a larger box anchor to use for the front due to the additional weight. The key with the box anchor is making sure you have enough rope out.

For the back of the boat, when don't beach it, we use the Slide Anchor Sand Spike (http://www.slideanchor.com/spike.html). We also use this when we beach it to tie off the front of the boat.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I am probably just not using it right then. Maybe I am just too much of a rookie and not using it correctly. More rope then huh? I will try that.

I have the spike stick for the back and it works great.

Was your boat at essex last week?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes our boat was at Essex last week. We took it in for the 20 hour service and to have the trailer fixed by Zieman. It will be in the Essex booth this weekend at the Spring Boat show at the LA County Fairgrounds. Next week Steve, the owner of Essex is taking it out for some prop test runs and to check on the soot problem associated with the 525.

Bill
HH

[Music to my Ears]

I used to use Sundance but have also switched to Wax Frenzy. Good stuff. Waxes while you take off the water spots.

As for the anchoring, I can't think of a better combo than the Box Anchor and Slide Anchor. Never had a problem with either. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[B-Rad502]

The key with the vinegar/ water plan is to dilute it with distilled water at about 12 parts water to 1 part vinegar. Dilution is the key!! I then add a cap full of car wash/wax. I use distilled water because it is not as "hard" as tap water here. I also wax the boat about every 6 days of water use. Ask anybody that has ever tried walking across my deck, it's slippery/ glossy as new! I'm yet to try the sundance or other stuff, but, I'm always up for something new. http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Now, the box anchor dealio. The key to the box anchor is having it far enough out in front of your boat. It won't hold if it is dropped directly below the boat. Have to swim it out, drop it and back up, or drop it and drift back. Used mine at the sand bar a few weeks ago on the Southeast side in about 4 1/2' of water. The current was strong enough to put you about 8' behind the boat as soon as you jumped in. Did a sandspike under the water behind the boat. Left the boat for about 45 mins w/ no supervison and that thing didn't budge! Same success at Powell and Mohave, the box anchor didn't budge when set properly. That box anchor is the shit! http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[TooMuchFun]

Agreed with others on the anchors and B-Rad on the vinegar deal. I mix 10-12 parts distilled water only with 1 part white distilled vinegar. Use with every takeout for water spots with a fine spraymist bottle. Use Marine Clean-All from West Marine for all grease and dirt spots that are hard to get out. Have not had a problem with the vinegar and distilled water use ever (and have been using on the current hull for 4 seasons now), but I dilute, spray very lightly when I use, stop spraying on when the towel has enough in it, and use only Teflon Wax from West Marine ... 2 coats on the entire boat twice per year. Something about the teflon that makes it last longer and not break down as easily with cleaners. I've tried the wash and wax combos, but if not careful I used to wax in some water spots ... and at the end of a long day on the water, I sometimes am not seeing all that clearly http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif.

On anchors, it is the length of line used ... in rough water and strong currents you need 6-8 times the depth of the water for the length of line (e.g., drop in 10 ft., use 60 feet of line or so). I drop a box anchor, drift in a ways and use a spike on shore. If overnight, I always point the bow away from shore as well so no waves sneak in past the baffles on the exhausts. I never beach as even if the sand is fine with no rocks it still scrapes the wax and some gel off the hull over time. Tying to a box anchor offshore also helps when you decide to leave ... you simply pull back out to deeper water where the drive is safe from sucking up mud and etc.

TooMuchFun

[Vortexman]

Thanks guys..... http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[Red Horse]

According to Chapmans Piloting and Seamanship the proper scope for anchoring is 7:1. For every 1 foot of water depth then 7 foot of rode. I have a danforth style anchor with 2 foot of chain. The chain holds the anchor at the right angle to hold. Happy anchoring http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif http://www.lasvegashotboats.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[Essex502]

Second all that's been said...I have two box anchors that I used front and back at the Fall Heat Wave in Havasu last year...put out about 100' of line on one and 150' of line on the other right near the action of all the boats blasting by. Every boat near us had difficulty staying put where we were held rigidly in place...lots of line works. If you look at the "action" of the box anchor you'll see the the closer to parallel the anchor's "handle' is to the box will generate the best holding power.

I use the Waxing Frenzy from Warlock25 with the Porter Cable orbital waxer. Then either the WashWaxAll from Aerowax or the spray from Warlock25 (can't remember the name of the spray) for quick cleanup. With the Waxing Frenzy the water spots wipe off with pure Sparklets and a soft cotton towel when we pull the boat out of the water at the end of a day.